Surprise, Surprise. Iranian Government Is Rooting For An Obama Victory

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1. Posted by Alexander on July 24, 2008
   

   I believe the TOR-M1’s have been operational for over a year now - in Iran and Syria. The S-300 is the new one. According to wikipedia “They seem to have acquired an unknown number of S-300PMU-1 missiles in 1993, maybe even recently from Belarus.[18] Iran claimed to have signed a contract with Russia on 25 December 2007 on the sales of the S-300PMU-2 missile system.[19] Russian officials have denied this” [source]

   Obama will be Jimmy Carter all over again.

2. Posted by winston on July 24, 2008
   

   The Mullahs know Obama likes them. Obama is a useless, weak and defeatist candidate with a shady background and Mullahs love people like him. I am sure Obama would appreciate the Mullahs support too.

3. Posted by Stevoh on July 25, 2008
   

   Fred,

   Yes regime change, like in Germany and Japan. My father fought in the battle of Okinawa and watched as thousands of his fellow Americans sacrificed their lives so people like you can come on the internet and speak openly of your own beliefs, however distorted they may be. Are you posting from the UK? Or another European country? If so you owe a debt of gratitude to my fathers generation from ridding Europe of National Socialism. My father then went on to become a Fullbright Scholar living and teaching English in Iran and Afghanistan from 1960-1962. I could tell you much about both countries from that time forward. There will be future posts about his experiences living in those countries and teaching English under the highly respected Fullbright Scholarship program.

   First, The surge has worked. Iraq has turned the corner and victory to me is an end to the sectarian violence, and the ability of the Iraqi government to mange it’s own population. Saddam Hussein was a mass murderer of muslims, between him and the Mullah’s of Iran they are responsible for the death of nearly a MILLION MUSLIMS!

   More brave allied soldiers died on the beaches of those small Japanese controlled Islands in one day than soldiers lost in both Iraq and Afghanistan for the entire occupation, following the regime changes. So the Taliban, and Saddam Hussein, the murderous Bathist are out of power, and you belittle these positive measures? Afghanistan has and always will be a tribal country, lawlessness is prevalent outside of the major population centers. This even allied forces can’t change. However, the Taliban are isolated and on the run. Their brutal totalitarian power reduced to Al Qaeda type attacks.

   Regarding Obama, I’m glad you mentioned his speech in Berlin, which did nothing in the States to bolster his numbers btw. He is in a statistical dead head with McCain, only 2 pts ahead on all the major polls. His numbers have fallen in the last week, and McCain has even taken the lead in the crucial swing state of Colorado. Obama is an inexperienced politician who has flipped more than he can flop in just the last two weeks. The infatuation in America with Obama is media driven and in the end, I don’t feel he will ever become president of the USA. Reverend Wright, Tony Rezco, a first term senator who rose to power in the dirty world of Chicago politics. Mind you I voted for Bill Clinton twice, this man is no Kennedy, Reagan or even Clinton. Have you heard the guy ummm and uhhhh his way when off tele prompter. He had audacity in Berlin alright. He knocked the USA, something Reagan never ever would have done!
   I have dozen’s of links on Obama and his voting record, or lack thereof in the Senate. The man has missed every crucial vote in the senate and has absolutely no paper trail other than his current flip flop on FISA.

   Try this link and meet the man and all of his friends.

   http://theobamafile.com/

   And read about Obama and Farrakhan, and his marxist /leftist ideology. The Euros love him, but here in the USA, the most liberal person to run for President since McGovern will most likely meet the same fate.

   Finally on to your last point which is the only one that truly nauseated me. Do you know who Ron Paul is and what he really stands for? We’re talking White Supremacist, Jew hating, isolationist here. Ok here we go,

   This is just an excerpt from the New Republic and I quote from Paul’s own newsletters. This is a tiny portion of his hatred. For the full article go to:

   http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca

   “Such views on race also inflected the newsletters’ commentary on foreign affairs. South Africa’s transition to multiracial democracy was portrayed as a “destruction of civilization” that was “the most tragic [to] ever occur on that continent, at least below the Sahara”; and, in March 1994, a month before Nelson Mandela was elected president, one item warned of an impending “South African Holocaust.”

   Martin Luther King Jr. earned special ire from Paul’s newsletters, which attacked the civil rights leader frequently, often to justify opposition to the federal holiday named after him. (”What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it!” one newsletter complained in 1990. “We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.”) In the early 1990s, newsletters attacked the “X-Rated Martin Luther King” as a “world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours,” “seduced underage girls and boys,” and “made a pass at” fellow civil rights leader Ralph Abernathy. One newsletter ridiculed black activists who wanted to rename New York City after King, suggesting that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,” and “Lazyopolis” were better alternatives. The same year, King was described as “a comsymp, if not an actual party member, and the man who replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.”

   While bashing King, the newsletters had kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled “The Duke’s Victory,” a newsletter celebrated Duke’s 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Senate primary. “Duke lost the election,” it said, “but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment.” In 1991, a newsletter asked, “Is David Duke’s new prominence, despite his losing the gubernatorial election, good for anti-big government forces?” The conclusion was that “our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom.” Duke is now returning the favor, telling me that, while he will not formally endorse any candidate, he has made information about Ron Paul available on his website.

   Like blacks, gays earn plenty of animus in Paul’s newsletters. They frequently quoted Paul’s “old colleague,” Representative William Dannemeyer–who advocated quarantining people with AIDS–praising him for “speak[ing] out fearlessly despite the organized power of the gay lobby.” In 1990, one newsletter mentioned a reporter from a gay magazine “who certainly had an axe to grind, and that’s not easy with a limp wrist.” In an item titled, “The Pink House?” the author of a newsletter–again, presumably Paul–complained about President George H.W. Bush’s decision to sign a hate crimes bill and invite “the heads of homosexual lobbying groups to the White House for the ceremony,” adding, “I miss the closet.” “Homosexuals,” it said, “not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.” When Marvin Liebman, a founder of the conservative Young Americans for Freedom and a longtime political activist, announced that he was gay in the pages of National Review, a Paul newsletter implored, “Bring Back the Closet!” Surprisingly, one item expressed ambivalence about the contentious issue of gays in the military, but ultimately concluded, “Homosexuals, if admitted, should be put in a special category and not allowed in close physical contact with heterosexuals.”

   The newsletters were particularly obsessed with AIDS, “a politically protected disease thanks to payola and the influence of the homosexual lobby,” and used it as a rhetorical club to beat gay people in general. In 1990, one newsletter approvingly quoted “a well-known Libertarian editor” as saying, “The ACT-UP slogan, on stickers plastered all over Manhattan, is ‘Silence = Death.’ But shouldn’t it be ‘Sodomy = Death’?” Readers were warned to avoid blood transfusions because gays were trying to “poison the blood supply.” “Am I the only one sick of hearing about the ‘rights’ of AIDS carriers?” a newsletter asked in 1990. That same year, citing a Christian-right fringe publication, an item suggested that “the AIDS patient” should not be allowed to eat in restaurants and that “AIDS can be transmitted by saliva,” which is false. Paul’s newsletters advertised a book, Surviving the AIDS Plague–also based upon the casual-transmission thesis–and defended “parents who worry about sending their healthy kids to school with AIDS victims.” Commenting on a rise in AIDS infections, one newsletter said that “gays in San Francisco do not obey the dictates of good sense,” adding: “[T]hese men don’t really see a reason to live past their fifties. They are not married, they have no children, and their lives are centered on new sexual partners.” Also, “they enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick.”

   The rhetoric when it came to Jews was little better. The newsletters display an obsession with Israel; no other country is mentioned more often in the editions I saw, or with more vitriol. A 1987 issue of Paul’s Investment Letter called Israel “an aggressive, national socialist state,” and a 1990 newsletter discussed the “tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise.” Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, “Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”

   You said no other politician can gather 200,000 people in Berlin. I remember one who had no problem drawing those crowds, in the same place. Just a different time and a different fascist threat.

   You see Fred, the Iranian threat is very real. National Socialism and Islamism have a long cozy history dating back to the 1930’s. Please read:

   http://www.spme.net/cgi-bin/articles.cgi?ID=1636

   And this on Carter and the Iranian Hostage negotiations, an example of what you describe as “…. time to bring diplomacy back and stop invading countries.”

   http://www.spme.net/cgi-bin/articles.cgi?ID=1607

4. Posted by Stevoh on July 26, 2008
   

   Fred,

   The USA was attacked on her own soil on September 11, 2001. My best friend died in the WTC that day. He was trapped on the 105th floor at Cantor Fitzgerald. Our embassies in Africa were attacked as well. You choose to completely ignore the simple fact that Islamism is the greatest threat to human race today. The bobble head, can’t speak off the tele-prompter Obama admitted as much in his speech in Berlin. Which by the way had little or no effect on the American voters. He called for the world to combat terrorism, to help the US in Afghanistan in it’s fight against the evil Jihadists.

   I know my WWII history and don’t need a lesson from you on all of the different ethnicities who were victims and brave warriors. It is indisputable that the USA’s participation in the war was the deciding factor. Had the US not landed on the beaches of Normandy (I don’t recall Hitler attacking the USA on her own soil) Eurpoe would be a very different place today indeed.

   Wars are not only fought for entirely defensive purposes. Hitler was a maniac, with an evil ideology, and the military might to roll through Europe which he did. Ahmadinejad and the Mullah’s have a similar ideology. The USA invaded Afghanistan and Iraq to isolate the Iranian regime and is presently working to destabilize the Government and hope it falls from the inside out. The Mafia Bathist Syrian regime will be dealt with similarly. Tell me Fred how is it that a Nuclear armed Iranian regime which openly calls for Armageddon,(See my previous links on the Basiji), should be defended. For this is what you are doing. How dare you call the USA the greatest danger to world peace. Had the Soviets won the Cold War you would have seen what real evil is.

   You see Fred your problem is you wish to avoid war at any cost. Than you invoke Darfur Rawanda and Somalia. Are you for real? The African Union won’t even support the war crimes charges against the Sudanese President Bashir. They don’t want the US anywhere near the conflict. The Russians supply the arms to the Islamist Gov’t and you blame the US. Why the mess in Somalia? Islamism. Why in Darfur? Islamism. Read the Mattias Kuentzel links, please. Islamism is directly tied to the fanatical ideology of National Socialism under Hitler. It is undeniable. Stop your pedestal lectures on US policy and dig deep inside and start seeing the world not through leftist books, but through Real Politik.

   You even excuse that Ron Paul is a racist. I supplied the proof, it’s a well known fact that he was and is a white supremacist supported by David Duke and his ilk. He has support in the USA, because there are still plenty of bigots and morons roaming our streets, just like any other country.

   Abu Gharib. Please. What do Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Al Aska Martyrs Brigade do to our prisoners? You are so well educated, yet so out of touch with reality, I recommend you post on Daily Koz or somewhere else where 9-11 troofers and blind appeasers gather like rats in a basement.

   As for the US becoming a second rate player in the global market. The most naive of all of your statements yet. We sit on an abundance of natural resources. We are a democracy. We are 300 million strong most proud, hard working and tolerant. We don’t carry the centuries old crap that the ethnically and nationally divided Europe does. We have most of the greatest minds in the world in science and technology.

   FYI What is this huge price that the US is paying because of her actions around the world right now? We are due for another recession, yes, but in capitalist markets, that is the cycle we ride.

   You are blind to the power and scourge of Islamic fundamentalism. You don’t have the will or the stomach to fight the correct fight. Instead you bash the greatest nation in the history of mankind.

5. Posted by Cindy Schneider on July 28, 2008
   

   Iran has it’s own way of attacking other countries. They support and fund hezbollah and hamas. They are trying to gain power in Libanon and Israel, they want to spread the islamic revolution, they want a huge Sharia nation.
   Ahmadinejad en the Mullahs have the same screwed up mind as Hitler had.

   Obama is in denial. I mean, he wants to solve the thread with talks??? have we forgotten how Chamberlain talked to Hitler? We need a new Reagan!!

   Watch In the face of evil and find out that “Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid”.

   McCain 2008! Ahmadinejad gone in 2009!
   Obama 2008…. Islamic revolution part II before 2010..

6. Posted by Alexander on July 28, 2008
   

   The dutch people truly get it. Thanks Cindy.

   We added the infamous Chamberlain speach on appeasement.

7. Posted by Cindy Schneider on July 28, 2008
   

   Alexander,

   No they don’t but I make it my daily job to make them get it. I have this passion to make people see what the Iranians are really about, they are nothing like the Mullahs are forcing them to be. I want to be able to travel to a free Iran one day, the Iranians are beautiful on the in and outside. It’s about time they get to show it.

   I do believe many Dutch see that Obama is the most destructive candidate, he is bad news for Europe and the rest of the world. He is a socialist in the worst possible way. Too bad that wherever free media is possible the left winged media is in control. But I still see McCain winning the elections, I haven’t given up yet.

8. Posted by Stevoh on July 28, 2008
   

   Thanks for your comment Cindy. My next response to Fred’s insistence that Iran has not attacked another nation in 200 hundred years is patently false. Hezbollah crossed into Israel and killed and kidnapped Israeli soldiers on their own soil. That was an act of war by the Iranian Government who created, supplies both financial and military training and weapons to their terrorist arm.

   Same goes for Hamas. They too are to are supported by the Iranian regime. And their constant barrage of rockets into Israeli terrority is yet another example.

   Finally Iran has been waging open warfare with US soldiers in Iraq, by supplying IED’s, and other high tech weaponry to Shia militias which are trained, supplied with weapons and sent to kill US soldiers.

   Fred is terribly wrong and tries to paint the Iranian regime as a victim, when in fact it is the greatest threat to humanity in the world today.

9. Posted by Stevoh on July 28, 2008
   

   P.S. please feel free to comment on the debate Fred and I have been having in the comment section of the stoning post. He is even more forthcoming in his insistence that Iran has never attacked anyone. We need more comments from people who understand the global threat the Iranian regime preesnts, and an accounting of their attacks on other sovereign nations both through their proxies and the revolutionary guard.

10. Posted by Cindy Schneider on July 28, 2008
    

    I will comment on that as well. I just had a few discussions in Dutch about Iran and some other about Obama so I have to switch to English Maybe I should clear my head first, I’ll get back on it later.

    Thanks.

11. Posted by Alexander on July 28, 2008
    

    Cindy,

    I agree with you. I love the persian people.

12. Posted by Cindy Schneider on July 29, 2008
    

    Don’t even get me started on Iraq. That’s not America’s mistake, that’s simply a power battle between the Sunni minority, the Shia majority and the Kurds. But it’s so easy to blame the US. Well, I can’t agree with everything Bush did or does but he had my full support to do whatever it took to get rid of the Saddam guy. I haven’t forgotten “Anfal”.

    Iran should not be invaded, while we are talking about it people in Iran are standing up and trying. They won’t stop and as long as money keeps going to the protest organizations, one day they will succeed. The European Union is supporting them and so are the United Nations and the US doubles it all.

    What we don’t need is some pussy president who will bow for the Islamic regime. We need someone who is arrogant enough to stand up and really make a change.

    History is repeating, Fred. So I have every right to bring Chamberlain and Hitler up as well as the cold war. Remember who ended all that? It took republicans and I can’t thank them enough! (Well, Roosevelt was partly Dutch ) The US rebuilt our country, I will never forget. Reagan ended the cold war and again I will never forget. Obama will make sure the Islamic revolution spreads to other countries…. many people won’t survive and they will be forgotten.

    We need to stand up against the Mullahs and Ahmadinejad because they are today’s Hitler and Communists combined.

13. Posted by Stevoh on July 29, 2008
    

    Cindy,

    You are spot on. Not only is history repeating, it is from the root of the same tree as Hitler. Check out the LInks to Mattias Kuentzel in my posts and comments. The connections are undeniable.

    Thanks for your sanity!

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